こんにちは。
イザットハウス社の在来外断熱〔断熱材ネオマフォーム〕3.5mmと、ハウゼ・2X4〔断熱材グラスウール160mm〕のどちらにしようかと思っています。
家の性能や造りにこだわっている点で、イザットハウスかな〜っと思っていたのですが、昨日ハウゼさんがパラマウント商事社と言う、断熱材の会社の方を連れてきて、ネオマフォームは2・3年すると、ちじんできて、隙間が出来ると言われました。よって、2〜3年すると、C値・Q値ともに下がっていくと。あと、火事になったら有毒ガスが出て、死にますよとも・・。逆にグラスウールを100mmではなく、160mm入れておけば、ずーっと同じC値・Q値が保てるとも・・。そんな部材を使うかな〜と思いつつ、不安になり教えていただきたいと書き込みました。ちなみに、パラマウント商事社は施工もしており、内断熱・外断熱ともに扱っているそうです。(が、かなり外断に批判的でしたが)よろしくお願いします。
[スレ作成日時]2007-03-25 23:21:00
旭化成のネオマフォームについて
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匿名さん
[2007-05-13 15:53:00]
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匿名さん
[2007-05-13 19:56:00]
EPSは水には強いが縮む
ネオマの表面覆ってるアレって透湿シートってこと知らないのですか? |
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匿名さん
[2007-05-14 13:37:00]
透湿シートって事は、逆に湿気も進入するって事ですよね??
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匿名さん
[2007-07-12 22:15:00]
ネオマフォームは水を含むとアルカリ性を帯びてボロボロになるとどこかで読みました
>アキレスがネオマを攻撃する材料によく使っています。 ただし、正しくはネオマ(フエノールフォーム)はPHが酸性なので ネオマを貫通している釘が錆びるというのが本当 |
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周辺住民さん
[2009-02-12 11:52:00]
あああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
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周辺住民さん
[2009-02-12 11:53:00]
エコですね〜!
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★
[2009-02-12 11:55:00]
エコエコエコエコエコエコエコエコエコエコエコエコエコエコエケオ
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拓也
[2009-02-12 11:56:00]
やっほ〜。
ネオマふぉーむ、すげーーー |
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★
[2009-02-12 11:56:00]
ネオマン
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★
[2009-02-12 11:58:00]
なかなかですな。
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(●’’・)
[2009-02-12 11:58:00]
えこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえこえ
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㍉
[2009-02-12 11:59:00]
ですけどなにか?
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(●’’・)
[2009-02-12 12:00:00]
出てこいやっ!
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㍉
[2009-02-12 12:00:00]
ふはははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははははは11111111
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(●’’・)
[2009-02-12 12:01:00]
wqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
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素人
[2009-05-20 22:57:00]
教えてください
屋根用に使うネオマと床用に使うネオマはサイズとか形状は違うんですか? |
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いつか買いたいさん
[2009-05-22 07:00:00]
どうしても外断熱でネオマを使いたくて工務店に見積もりを取ったら、5000円/㎡(材料費のみ)で驚いた
もちろん、屋根断熱が若干高いのはわかるが・・仕様は壁40ミリ、屋根100ミリでまあ、神戸市北区なのでこの程度で十分と考えてはいるが。でも、ネオマが高いのかこの工務店が高いのか教えてください |
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素人
[2009-05-22 23:34:00]
屋根100ミリとは、うらやましいですね。
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匿名さん
[2009-05-23 00:08:00]
ネオマは採用例が非常に少なく、コストメリットが出ていないだけのことです。
建材としてのランクはB-といったところでネオマフォーム単独仕様では期待する性能がとれません。 |
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地元不動産業者さん
[2009-05-23 18:30:00]
外断熱だとネオマをぜひとも使いたいです。しかし、コストが高いですよね。一般的な40坪住宅で施工費込で100万円ぐらいになりますね。(上記の仕様だと)これではなかなかお客さんは納得しないでしょう。
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確かに難燃性や断熱性能でぬきんでていますが、、EPSやXPSの方が水に対して安定している。